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Approved as
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SCARE CANYON RANCH ASSOCIATION
September 21, 2007 Board Meeting
Weber County Library, Ogden UT
Meeting began at 6:10
p.m.
Derek Hunwick, SCRA
President, conducted the meeting.
Board Members
Present:
Derek Hunwick Kathy Rochell, Secretary Kerry
Dykester, Absent
Monte Matue
Mary Lou Heslop, Treasurer Blair Lierd, Absent
Randy Rochell
Tom Whitaker
Excused Board
Members:
Invited Visitors:
Donald Todd,
Jr.
David Pugmire
Doug
Stuart
Ryan Leishman
OLD BUSINESS:
1. Mary Lou passed out
the Financial Report for August 2007.
2. Kathy Rochell
passed out the July 2007 Board Meeting Minutes and they were approved.
3. Discussion on the
upper spring taking its natural course during 1 Nov to 1 Jun each year.
This is dictated by the state and Cache County. Failure to comply can
result in SCRA losing its water rights. We are limited to 27.4 acre feet of
water each year.
a. The new landowners of the Bob Allred/Cotton
Rosser cabin have agreed to allow SCRA to hook up to the overflow so we can
shut it down in November. Ray Gibbons put a meter in. Bill Amundsen is not
sure where the line is hooked up. We need to get it taken care of so we
have no problem with the state.
b. Tom
said the overflow comes out of the tank which goes through the meter and
could register that we use too much water. Monte recommended we move the
meter to measure just what we use on the outlet. Discussed ways to correct
the problem. Randy said he thought Ray Gibbons used to shut off the water
each fall.
4. Ron Hill has not
responded to the letter sent to him requesting he comply with our Bylaws.
Monte said he does have a tank. Randy said he understands the valves are
shut. Derek said they’ve been turned on since the rainfall.
a. Randy
said we should give Ron some leeway since he does provide security and he
put in the original water lines.
b. Derek
said since Ron is running a live line, every time we try to figure where
water is gone, Ron is always taking water off the top. The spring is
producing about 400 gallons since the rainfall. Water should be in the
tank, but there isn’t any. The meter has stopped running. Monte said that
the people over the hill all have storage tanks, but if Ron constantly draws
with a live line, they will never get water over the hill. Randy said you
have to have an overflow. He also said the best place for the storage tank
is at the top of the hill. Derek said Ken Love wouldn’t allow them to put
an underground tank on his property. Randy said we should have a right of
way and be able to put a tank where we want to. Randy said if the spring is
even producing a small amount, the tank should be full. Derek said if we
have a heavy rainfall, there is water from the spring.
c. Monte has concerns that there could be a
liability issue if SCRA allows Ron to have a live line.
d. Tom
said Ron voted to agree with Bylaws so he himself should have to comply.
Derek said we just want Ron to make a commitment to do something. Derek
said he’d send a notice out in the November President’s letter that everyone
needs to comply.
e. Randy
made a motion to give Ron until mid next summer to comply. Tom seconded
motion to give Ron to end of June next summer. The motion was approved.
NEW BUSINESS
1. Discussion on
Security for Hunting.
a. Tony
Fox agreed to have his cabin be the focal point for the deputies.
b. The deputies asked for clarification
of the areas where people can hunt. They were given a copy of the maps from
the Hideout folks showing those areas that are no longer open for hunting.
c. Randy
asked if the deputies have been in the area yet. The deputies said yes.
Randy said we’d like them to be there for the three major hunting seasons.
c. They do
have security signs for two vehicles. Gave the deputies 4-wheeler Security
Decals and the list of the Board Members in case they need to contact
anyone. Randy said he had two additional sets of security signs and would
leave them at Tony Fox’s cabin for them to use. They said four sets of
security signs would be fine.
d. In
addition to David Pugmie and Ryan Leishman, there will be two other deputies
helping, i.e., Mark Stauffer and Dave Welker.
e.
Deputies were asked to keep a notebook of things they did. Tom said we
would like to have them give us a report of what they accomplished. They
were asked to look for windshield stickers on the vehicles and yellow
hunting permits. Tom asked what the deputy would do if someone is up there
without a permit. Ryan said they’ll find out who they’re with and ask them
to leave. Monte said if they won’t leave without confrontation, they could
call someone.
f. They want to have a box so anyone can
put a note in it for the deputies if someone sees something wrong. Board
agreed to put a locked box at the second gate so people can report on
issues.
g. Randy asked what they can do on the
spot if they catch someone doing something wrong. Deputies said the courts
have limited the scope of what they can do. They can make contact, get
names, give tickets for DUI, ask them to leave.
g. David
Pugmire asked what SCRA is going to do to those who have been identified in
their report. The board responded that depending on the offense, take away
keys, contact the landowners, maybe even notify the Fish and Game.
h.
Discussion on property being properly posted. The correct way is to have
all four corners plus both sides of the road or streams posted. Monte said
SCRA isn’t properly posted.
Break 7:45 – 8:00
7. Derek asked the
board whether to pay the deputies $600 plus give them hunting permits for
doing security. The $600 includes the $200 Blair has promised to reimburse
SCRA from the Hideout. It would be split between the four deputies. Monte
made the motion to pay the deputies. Tom seconded and the motion was
passed.
8. Derek said a member
is asking for a listing of the number of hunt permits issued per lot
number. He checked and could find no place where the board has taken a
position on that request. The Fish and Game do not give out the information
anymore. Monte said so far we have given out 146 permits. The board
agreed that giving out the total number of permits is all right, but not per
lot because of the privacy act. Randy motioned that we deny the request.
Tom seconded.
9. We have had
complaints from three different individuals regarding bullets shot through
the trees in Mountain Quakes. Randy asked what we can do about it. Tom
said it should go directly to the Sheriff rather than having the board
confront them. Whoever is complaining knows who is causing the problem.
Monte said the person complaining should talk to the people causing the
problem first. If it happens again, let the Sheriff know. Derek asked if
we should put something in the bylaws about no shooting in Mountain Quakes.
Randy said he’s afraid we’ll place the Association liable if there’s a
problem and we put something in the bylaws and have no way to enforce it.
10. The hydraulic
manifold on the grader needs rebuilt. Estimated cost is $1400. Tom
motioned to approve the funding. Randy seconded the motion. Board
approved.
11. Discussion on
paying someone for reporting lightning strikes and fires. Derek said he
thought we have given out a $25 reward in the past. Board voted no we won’t
pay for reporting fires.
12. Discussion on Kent
Whiteman’s letter posted on the web. Derek asked if we want to do this in
the future. Board agreed not to post personal letters on web site in the
future.
13. Discussed SCRA
paying for the governing board to have a Christmas social at a nice
restaurant each year since they spend so much time doing SCRA related
tasks. Monte recommended SCRA pay $50 per board member and their spouse.
It was approved. Date selected is Dec 6, 2007. Tom agreed to make the
arrangements at the Prairie Schooner.
Meeting adjourned at
8:55 p.m.
Kathy Rochell
SCRA
Secretary
2007 SCARE Canyon
Ranch Association, all rights reserved. Site designed
and maintained by The Country Hollow.
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